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Intelligent Design and its, err, Challenged Proponents
03.29.05 (9:39 am)   [edit]

I love this quote and only wish I came accross this first. A Pennsylvania pastor said this about those who attack the teaching of Intelligent Design.


"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture" 

From http://www.pogge.ca/cgi-bin/mt/foolthem.cgi/754" title="http://www.pogge.ca/cgi-bin/mt/foolthem.cgi/754" target="_blank"http://www.pogge.ca/cgi-bin/m...  Pogge says it all.  "Um, pastor? Think about that." 


Let me make something clear.  The problem with ID is not some of the negative arguments made by its proponents.  For example, some of the examples Behe gives about certain biological structures being irreducibly complex are interesting.  No, the problem is their positive argument, often not even stated, sucks.  Just how does a non-spatially extended God interact with the world to create these structures?  What the ID people want is to have an unworkable and outdated Cartesian substance dualism declared a scientific.  It is not. 


 


The quote came from here. 



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Pogge blog's is well worth looking at by the way.  One of the better Canadian blogs out there.    


 


posted by: Gordon Stephens (reply)
post date: 03.31.05 (12:39 am)

I don't even give them irreducible complexity. It ignores the fecundity of intermediate forms.

An example is the eye, which Behe claims is irreducibly complex, and yet molecular sequencing suggests the eye has probably evolved at least 7 different times... That in itself isn't an argument, but an invitation to explore the area further. Talkorigins.org is, as always, a great resource.



posted by: koby (reply)
post date: 03.31.05 (7:53 am)

I am not prepared to give them anything. Behe and company are seeking to prove a negative whenever they lable something as a "complex structure". That said, their focusing in on difficult cases and knocking down weak adaptive explanations helps clear the way for stronger ones. What bugs me is they have offer no intellible mechanism for how a god is involved.



posted by: Wanda (reply)
post date: 03.26.06 (10:00 am)

Gotcha great blog going on here.

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