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"Merry Christmas" Controversy
12.22.04 (11:48 pm)   [edit]

Bill O’Reilly notes that “In Denver this past weekend, no religious floats were permitted in the holiday parade there. In New York City, Mayor Bloomberg unveiled the holiday tree and no Christian Christmas symbols are allowed in the public schools. Federated Department Stores, [that's] Macy's, have done away with the Christmas greeting, "Merry Christmas."  [link]  This O’Reilly says can not stand.  O’Reilly is not alone in his opinion.  Suddenly saying “Merry Christmas” has become a political act for American conservatives.  It is part of concerted effort by social conservatives to "take back" the holidays from those “liberals” wishing to wash away any religious connotations associated with such traditions.  The whole debate drives me around the bend. 



The problem is this: both sides mistakenly believe that the traditions they wish to prop up, or do away with still have the religious significance they once did.  The fact of the matter is various social factors, most notably commercialization, have robbed many of those traditions of any such significance and good number, even most, simply never had any.  Indeed, Christmas was a creation of the emerging bourgeoisie and grew out of new conception of family fostered by that class and perfected by its best known representative intellectuals, most notably Charles Dickens.  What is more, over time Christmas became something akin to a dirty snow ball as more and more disparate traditions found their way into the mix.    I like it that way and I am no mood to have the Christians with the help of their “liberal” opponents instill religious significance into those traditions just so they can fight over the separation of church and state. 



So “liberals”, stop with the “winter solstice” thing and claim Christmas for everyone by wishing everyone regardless of creed or religion a Merry Xmas. 


 


The CSMonitor has more on the issue here.  http://csmonitor.com/2004/1215/p01s03-ussc .html" title="http://csmonitor.com/2004/1215/p01s03-ussc .html" target="_blank"http://csmonitor.com/2004/121...

 


posted by: gesn (reply)
post date: 12.23.04 (8:15 am)

The 'winter solstice' thing is a religious holiday greeting. You might as well get mad for people wishing each other a happy Hannukah.



posted by: koby (reply)
post date: 12.23.04 (8:54 am)

Reply to: gesn
It is not used as religious holiday gretting the vast majority of the time. It is used as alternative to saying "merry Xmas" -- a political act. The problem is this needlessly concedes ground to those wanting to make Xmas soley into a christian holiday. Moreover, merry winter solistice just falls flat. Most people have no idea what you are talking about.



posted by: gesn (reply)
post date: 12.23.04 (9:16 am)

Reply to: koby
The only people I hear refer to Solstice as a greeting are members of the various earth-based religions like Wicca.



posted by: koby (reply)
post date: 12.23.04 (2:42 pm)

I have known people who have practiced wicca and I have never been wished merry solstice before by them. The only time I have been wished merry winter solstice is by "liberals" being difficult.

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