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Thomas Frank is Wrong
04.21.08 (2:48 pm)   [edit]

Thomas Frank has it ass backwards. What the Republican Party got right was not in convincing working class Americans to vote against their economic self interest. Rather it was in convincing the Democratic Party that it needed to “triangulate” itself into ideological no man’s land in order to win. As Princeton’s Larry Bartels has demonstrated, http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache" title="http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache" target="_blank"http://72.14.253.104/search?q...:yivC-gX3DSMJ:www.princeton.edu/~bartels/kansas.pdf+Larry+Bartels&hl= en&ct=clnk&cd=2&a mp;gl=ca the white working class has not abandoned the Democratic Party. Indeed, they voted for Kerry in stronger numbers than they did JFK or Hubert Humphrey. Nor do the worker class voters place more attention to social issues than economic issues; the opposite it overwhelming true. Working class voters place far more of emphasis on economic issues than do any other segment of voters. Indeed, the higher up the economic ladder one goes the more emphasis voters place on social issues and the less on economic ones. In 2004 well to do placed 10 times as much importance on social issues than did the working class.

Little wonder then why white rural worker class voters overwhelmingly favor Clinton over Obama. She gives them a lot more meat and potatoes then he does. Conversely the much more socially liberal Obama plays much better with urban well off then she does. If the Democrats are going to win the next election, they need to combine the strength of both. They need to become more socially liberal and more fiscally liberal.

What holds true for the Democrats holds doubly true for the Liberals in Canada. There is not a large segment of affluent evangelicals standing in the Liberals way the way there is for the Democrats in the States. The Liberals need to return to 1968. They need to offer universal social programs (e.g., universal dental care and Pharmacare) and social liberalism (e.g., legalized marijuana, euthanasia and perhaps even prostitution) on steroids. This is what won them every province, save Alberta, in 1968. They need to be reminded how wrong a cynical Liberal's forecast was when he said the Liberal slogan for the 1968 election should be the following. "For abortion, homosexuality and easy divorce - vote Liberal!"

 


posted by: janfromthebruce (reply)
post date: 04.21.08 (3:14 pm)

'The Liberals need to return to 1968. They need to offer universal social programs (e.g., universal dental care and Pharmacare) and social liberalism (e.g., legalized marijuana, euthanasia and perhaps even prostitution) on steroids.'

Sounds positively social democrat to me. But one doesn't have to go back to 1968 but let's look at 1993 and that little liberal readbook, chalk full of "socialistic" promises or offers as you suggest. Yep, please trot out national pharmacare and daycare - again, and don't do nothing for almost 13 years, because libs love to jive on the left but always end up dancing on the right when elected.

If you want all that you might start looking at another party that actually espouses those policy directions rather than just mouths them - Strauss's "noble lie" comes to mind.



posted by: koby (reply)
post date: 04.21.08 (8:01 pm)

As for the Liberals talking left and governing right, this is false. The problem with the Liberals is that they have abandoned universality since Trudeau left and outside of SSM have not championed social liberalism in decades. To make matters worse, the NDP have followed the Liberals lead. This is a socially democratic party that is decades behind their European cousins. Why is the NDP not fighting for universal dental chare and 4 weeks vacation for all Canadians? Both parties have to rediscover their roots.



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