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Harper is no Red Tory and the Mark Warner Case Proves It
11.01.07 (12:57 pm)   [edit]
The reasons why Harper rejected Mark Warner http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/2 72579" title="http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/2 72579" target="_blank"http://www.thestar.com/News/C... are spelled out in June 2003 paper, entitled Rediscovering the Right Agenda.  

“conservative parties simply cannot shy away from values questions. On a wide range of public-policy questions, including foreign affairs and defence, criminal justice and corrections, family and child care, and healthcare and social services, social values are increasingly the really big issues. Take taxation, for example. There are real limits to tax-cutting if conservatives cannot dispute anything about how or why a government actually does what it does. If conservatives accept all legislated social liberalism with balanced budgets and corporate grants - as do some in the business community - then there really are no differences between a conservative and a Paul
Martin.

…..

Third, rebalancing means there will be changes to the composition of the conservative coalition. We may not have all the same people we have had in the past. The new liberal corporatist agenda will appeal to some in the business community. We may lose some old "conservatives," ; Red Tories like the David Orchards or the Joe Clarks. This is not all bad. A more coherent coalition can take strong positions it
wouldn't otherwise be able to take - as the Alliance alone was able to do during
the Iraq war.”


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The reason why Harper dumped Warner but has in the past allowed other Red Tories to run in several urban ridings is that they were not running in a high profile by-election campaign and Warner would have been.  Once it become clear that there would be no election this fall, Harper dumped him.  He was not going to have someone run against what he holds near and dear and have public kno w about it. 

"We've had, for a number of months, a series of differences between our campaign and the national campaign, over the degree to which I could run a campaign that would focus on the kind of issues that matter in a downtown urban riding," Warner told the Star.

Conservative officials have been actively resisting Warner's emphasis on housing, health care and cities issues, he said, even blocking him from participating in a Star forum on poverty earlier this year and pointedly removing from his campaign literature a reference to the 2006 international conference on AIDS in Toronto – which Warner attended but Prime Minister Stephen Harper did not.

Don Plett, Conservative party president, signed the letter that was delivered to Warner this week precisely as the government was unveiling its mini-budget on Tuesday afternoon.

Plett said yesterday he didn't want to elaborate on the decision to oust Warner, for privacy reasons. However, Plett didn't argue with Warner's characterization of the dispute.

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As for Warner's processed roots in the Progressive Conservative party, Harper was always quite clear that he regarded the Progressive Conservative party as a “second Liberal Party”.

As to Warner's attempts to address issues relating to social housing, access to education and issues related to poverty, make no mistake Harper has no time for such issues and is not afraid to say so. To wit:

"These [federal government] proposals included cries for billions of new money for social assistance in the name of 'child poverty' and for more business subsidies in the name of 'cultural identity'. In both cases I was sought out as a rare public figure to oppose such projects. ..."

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Harper’s unwillingness to attend the AIDS conference in Toronto is a pretty good sign that he regards such conferences and Warner's interest in them as so much “social liberalism” and he wants nothing to do with them.

The case of Mark Warner should serve as a wake up call to chattering classes. Harper is no Red Tory. There is not one policy proposal in the Rediscovering the Right agenda that Harper has not adopted and he is only dropped one, viz., ssm, and that was only after a three year loosing battle.
 


posted by: Miles Lunn (reply)
post date: 11.01.07 (4:26 pm)

I would add that the only Red Tories Harper really tolerates are ones who keep quiet and stay in line. Ones like Jim Prentice or Gerald Keddy are only allowed to stay since they haven't publicly spoken out against Conservative policies, but you can be sure Harper would much rather have a hard right winger in their place if he could.



posted by: Marie (reply)
post date: 11.01.07 (7:18 pm)

I heard that the unofficial reason for Warner being dropped is that CPC head office received complaints from certain individuals in his riding claiming that Warner was making some pretty grandiose and unethical promises in return for political support...that included promising to pull some strings for individuals who had immigration problems. It is not clear whether or not it was Liberal sympathizers who were making these claims but it IS in Bob Rae's riding and he HAS BEEN KNOWN to play politics in the mud.




posted by: Anybody (reply)
post date: 11.01.07 (9:50 pm)

You guys are idiots ;) Look at Warner when he is on television. Now, think about what message that image sends to white suburban voters. Nobody will look at the man's bio - they will look at his face.

The Guelph guy had to go too because you can't fire just a black guy.

This is classic Rovian-Aussie/Howard wedge politics. It is crass and it might just work.



posted by: (reply)
post date: 11.02.07 (1:49 am)

Good God Marie, where to start.

“Plett didn't argue with Warner's characterization of the dispute." One does not forbid him for taking part in a debate about poverty if it was not an issue.

As for the allegations, the Conservatives did not lift a finger when Grewal was doing much more than just making “grandiose” claims when it came to immigration matters. It is ridioculous to suggest that they would drop a candidate because “mud slinging” Bob Rae may or may not have planted a rumor.

Anybody.

Warner was dropped because of his Red Tory views. It is just that simple. As soon as it became clear that there would not be election this fall, Harper dropped Warner. It was one thing having him run in general election; it quite another to have him run in a high profile by-election race.

Harper thinks so highly of Red Tories that he does not even them to be true conservatives. To wit:

“rebalancing means there will be changes to the composition of the conservative coalition. We may not have all the same people we have had in the past. The new liberal corporatist agenda will appeal to some in the business community. We may lose some old "conservatives," Red Tories like the David Orchards or the Joe Clarks. This is not all bad. A more coherent coalition can take strong positions it
wouldn't otherwise be able to take - as the Alliance alone was able to do during
the Iraq war.”

So just how did Warner characterize his dispute. This was the title of his press release. "Red Tory fired from Downtown Toronto Electoral Race; Federal Conservative Party has no interest in engaging urban Canada"



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