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| Reducto: comments on Joe Wilson |
| 05.04.04 (1:53 am) [edit] |
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Joe says Iraqi did not try to buy weapons for Niger. George believes him, but George says that Iraq did try to buy weapons. When called upon it, George says he did not say that. What he said was Tony said Iraq tried to buy the weapons, but we know this defense is stupid. (More on the defense below) Now, Joe lied about Iraq trying to buy weapons. Does this mean that George was not lying and hence did not need to invoke I was just pointing out what Tony said defense? No of course not. George lied. Lying is intentionally trying to deceive not getting things right. Both Rice and Rumsfeld argued that the president was technically correct in what he said. The British had publicly said that “There is intelligence that Iraq has sought the supply of significant quantities of uranium from Africa" and in uttering those 16 words the president was just echoed what they had said. Why so few challenged Rumsfeld and Rice on this point is beyond me. The technical defense simply does not work and was in reality a ploy by the Whitehouse to obscure the fact that technically contained in Bush’s statement was the following truth claim: Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Granted, although most people do not attribute something to an author by saying so and so learned that x, it happens from time to time. In discussing the results of a scientific study, for example, people have attributed something to the author by saying they learned that x. It certainly appears that this is just such a case. However, that it is neither here nor there. After all, minus any quotation or specific citation "technically" what Bush's statement amounts to is this: Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa and the British have come to know this. |
posted by: CheckItOut (reply)
post date: 05.04.04 (9:02 am)
Bush knowingly said that Iraq acquired uranium yellow-cake from Niger knowing it was a bold-faced lie. The right-wing liars like Reducto and others can parse words all they want. Bush lied and should be impeached from office and sent to prison.
I don't believe a thing Reducto says, he is a liar and a traitor.
posted by: koby (reply)
post date: 05.04.04 (1:58 pm)
Reply to: CheckItOut
Look I would not put to much stalk in Wilson’s comments. He was sent to find out whether there was anything to a bunch of documents that turned out to be very badly forged indeed. He reported back that there was not and he repeated to Cheney what the CIA had told him, viz., the way Niger’s uranium industry was structured (pretty much all in French control) it would make it next to impossible for them to sell great quantities to Iraq even if they wanted to. What is curious about Wilson’s comical Ali comments is whether Wilson actually believed the allegation. Another interesting question is if true why the hell where the Iraqis getting a mouth piece like comical Ail to sound out Niger.
Back to Reducto, there was nothing under handed about his post. I just thought his analysis was mistaken. As to the Reducto being a pathological liar and a “traitor, get a hold of yourself. You are frothing at the mouth.
I have come across many bloggers who seem to operate under some strange binary logic. If my candidate or one of my candidate’s supporters says something, by that fact alone whatever the other side says about the same issue is heretical and false.